Is Nazi Germany no longer?

Question

Whenever somebody asks "if they were to visit German, would they face racism?" All German users say that Nazi Germany and its influence ended decades ago, but there might be some skin heads over here and over there and it would not be just to classify all Germans as Nazis because of a few losers. I already got that part so do not even bother repeating the same arguments over and over again, but what I do not understand is why German policemen do not stop a German man from stabbing Marwa Al-Sherbini, Egyptian Muslim woman, 18 times and her husband, who tried to save his wife, 3 times in the courtroom, which took several minutes. Last but not least, why the hell German police officers shot the husband who had been stabbed by that German 3 times whilst trying to help her wife?

Is German not one of the founders of the European Union which is founded on principles of liberty, democracy and human rights and fundamental freedoms?

Answer 1

No Israel took over in 1948 the role of the most racist place on this planet

Answer 2

I know I will get a lot of thumbs down, but I do not care.



What does the nazi time has to do with this case? Your question is such a nonsense. What would you think, if I ask if slavery is really over in USA regarding the The Rodney King case in YOUR country.



First this was a terrible and sad incident, but it is not something that we have everyday in Germany and you can be sure, investigations are taking place at this moment.



And something very important: I really, really hate the double standards that some people like you apply:



You are are accusing the whole of Germany of being a racist nation and the german police of being racist. But what about YOUR own country? Are there no racist people over there? Is the police over there really so holy? What about all the police brutality in YOUR country involving not only racial discrimination but also discrimination against gays, lesbian, homeless etc.



What about the Rodney King case http://www.helium.com/items/579799-police-abuse-case-in-los-angeles-the-rodney-king-case ?



What about cases and facts as the ones in the following links:



http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/15/us/15chicago.html



http://www.pageoneq.com/news/2005/gay_cops_abuse_092205.html



http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-334639.html



http://www.narpa.org/amnesty%20international.htm



In Germany no one can say that what the cop did, was a clear case of police brutality, it seems that the man made the wrong decision and that he should have done something diferent. In all the cases listed above (happened in YOUR COUNTRY) we are talking about proven cases of police brutality ... so, should we beging to believe that USA is still in the time of the slavery, has adopted de nazi-system or is still in the middle ages? I do not think so, but according to your logic, one can consider one of those as a fact.



Do you know what my friend. In my adoptive country (Germany) we use to say that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.



As immigrant in Germany and naturalized german citizen I can tell you that your question is BS.

Answer 3

I'm a native German, and I'm proud of my country because we have a constitution (although politicians are trying to change it) that is, in my opinion, the best in the world and might even supercede theAmerican one.



Now having said that, I also must admit that we have a bunch of morons that are racist and really somewhat TOO proud of their country. But hey're German citizens all the same, so what you're gonna do about them? Send them to jail?



No. That's not what the German state does. You send one Neo-Nazi to jail, and he's gonna be a martyr. Think of Rudolf Hess.



Finally, I don't understand your "last but not least" question; maybe I missed some news reports. But in Germany, nobody is allowed to carry or own guns, with just a few exceptions; and those who carry guns are subject to strict controls and regular training. Unfortunately that applies to the police, too. To put it bluntly, German police can't shoot, and if they try, they'll miserably fail. I'd rather mess with an American cop than with a German policewoman, because I'd rather risk a leg than my head.

Answer 4

The guy was a Russian man living in Germany. I guess she was German too, then?

Answer 5

It was just one hate crime in Germany, that does not represent the entire German country. The media always blows these types of incidents out of proportion and I can assure you that the German authorities did everything they can to prevent this from happening, but they were caught off-gaurd and it doesnt take very long for someone to stab someone.

Answer 6

I am German. I was born in Bremen, lived there for 9 years and I go back to visit every 2 years. Germany is ashamed of World War II. There's skinheads in America too. Neo-nazis are the German version of the KKK followers here. Every country has its faults and ****, Germany is so anti-war, they never even entered the war that's going on now.



As for the Muslim incident, there's THOUSANDS of Turkish Muslims living in Germany. Of course if one Muslim is killed, the media blows it up as if Germany will start WW III executing all the Muslims. They get welfare which German taxpayers pay for. There's not a single bit of racism going on. We are an extremely peaceful country now.

Answer 7

Germany is less racist than america.

If you go to eastern Germany you may be able to encounter more racism than in other parts. But when i worked as a nurse in the hospital often we had more none german speaking children there than Germans. People who lived in Germany, receive money from the german government but dare to learn German themselves. As a doctor in a pediatric clinic in Frankfurt it's best to speak turkish or italian. I can understand that people want to speak their own language, but if I live somewhere else I do learn the local language, even if it's as difficult as German.



By now the most racist country is China. And the Nazi Germany is not in Germany any longer; it's in China

Answer 8

"It was a criminal incident, and doesn't mean that a popular persecution of Muslims is taking place,"

Magdi el-Sayed, the spokesman for the Egyptian embassy in Berlin said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/07/german-trial-hijab-murder-egypt



The nazi regime ended 64 years ago.

The use of nazi propaganda, nazi symbols or glorification of the nazi regime are illegal in Germany.

Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany.



Please do not generalize!



Edit:

The original case was that the man had insulted the woman. Insult. Not rape, murder or such. What kind of security do you expect withinin a courtroom (not the entire building!) on such an occasion??

Probably not more than a single police officer. (Maybe not even within the room)

What's the first thing a police officer MUST do? He'd call for reinforcement before intervening himself.

Stabbing a person doesn't take hours!

Attacking the wrong guy when three persons are caught in a fight? Tragic! But in such a situation mistakes can happen!

I wonder if you would have behaved differently!

Answer 9

Black cat, one question at a time please.

Is Nazi Germany no longer? Yes, it is no longer.

But the fact that Jews are still hated world wide due to prejudice and bigotry is the problem. To single out the Germans as the sole anti semites would be foolish. In fact hatred of Jews was a weakness that Hitler was able to manipulate and lure in his enemies all over the world. Today it is the one common bound between otherwise warring Islamic nations and ethnic groups that only seem to share a hatred of Jews, just as the most of Europe hated Jews along with Hitler and the Germans during World War Two. If we can all learn to hate less and have a better understanding of people for their individual personalities, then we are not so easily duped by mad men and terrorists.

Answer 10

I'm going to let you in on one of the greatest secrets of human civilization: the police are usually stupid.That includes the police of any country.As for Germany still being Nazi,no it's not.However,I like the way Major Strasser put it in the movie Casablanca."When you say Third Reich you say it as though you expect for there to be others."

Answer 11

There are racially motivated crimes everday everywhere in the world and to deem Germany as a Nazi Fascist country because of this one incident is utter nonsense.there are millions of muslims in Europe its inevitable that some nationalist is going to have a problem with that.

Answer 12

Yeah, taht is really bad. But sh.t happens unfortunatly. Think about the London police who shot an innocent Brazilian student who they thought was a suicide bomber .

Answer 13

That's a b s o l u t e l y nonsense!! It really makes me angry to hear, that someone's talking about 'Nazi-Germany' because of ONE incident!

I don't say the death of the Egyptian woman wasn't absolutely horrible and inapprehensible, but is that reason enough to make such a provocing headline?

Hey, there are also many incidents with American police men, who were clubbing black people to death - and I'm not talking about 'rassistic Americans'!!

Answer 14

OK, think about it this way: You are the police guy, you stand there in a court room where a guy appeals a court decision which ruled for him to pay reimbursement to a woman he insulted.

In situations such as these, no "suspect" or person who appeals such a decision was arrested or needs to be brought into the courtroom in handcuffs or anything.

There is no sign of anyone planning any violence. Nothing. People are talking and behaving. Than, all of a sudden, the suspect moves towards the woman. Having no idea what it is he is doing, you move closer to see and/or stop him from hitting her or getting into her face or whatever else he might plan to do. Than you see he has stabbed her. You step back to call reinforcements, because you can not savely break up the fight alone, than try to move back in. Meanwhile, the husband of the woman, much closer to her than you from the beginning, has moved into the fight, a couple of people also sitting close to her are either trying to help her or get away. Firing into the knot is not a good idea, as you could hit anyone with the bullet. The attacker, the woman, the husband, or someone else. You try to get int there with your hands. The husband and some other fight you. They are in a panic and fight everything in front of them. You try to remove them from the scene so you maybe get a clear shot at the attacker.... Reeinforments come, try to help you remove the rest of the people. One police officer shoots, thinking the way clear, but the husband tears himself loose from the people holding him to get to his wife, and gets hit by the bullet.



When something like this happens, and you were not there, there is no way to judge who did what, why and when.

No one is allowed to attack someone with a knife in a court room, be he German or what-ever else, no matter what belief or religion or skin color or ethnicity the victim has. That is the legal system in Germany, and it does no good to try and tell us all that this was a "nazi-act" by the German government. That is a BS warping of the situation, trying to rouse people to hate crimes against germans, who were all shocked about what happened.